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'''The Caped Crusader''' is an individual who believes, and has stated, that [[human]] criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. At one point, [[Goliath]] quoted the Caped Crusader, albeit unknowingly. When [[Elisa Maza]] asked Goliath outright if he was quoting the Caped Crusader, Goliath asked if he might be of use to their cause. Elisa changed the subject. ''([[A Little Crazy|"A Little Crazy"]])''
 
'''The Caped Crusader''' is an individual who believes, and has stated, that [[human]] criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. At one point, [[Goliath]] quoted the Caped Crusader, albeit unknowingly. When [[Elisa Maza]] asked Goliath outright if he was quoting the Caped Crusader, Goliath asked if he might be of use to their cause. Elisa changed the subject. ''([[A Little Crazy|"A Little Crazy"]])''
  
==Tidbits==
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==Apocrypha==
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[[Image:David_Xanatos_Main_Image.PNG|thumb|360px|The Caped Crusader when he is out of costume perhaps?  Maybe?]]
 
In the [[:Category:Apocrypha|apocryphal]] Radio Play, [[Recruits|"Recruits"]], [[David Xanatos]] attempted to recruit the Caped Crusader to his new club: "Rich Boys With Big Toys".
 
In the [[:Category:Apocrypha|apocryphal]] Radio Play, [[Recruits|"Recruits"]], [[David Xanatos]] attempted to recruit the Caped Crusader to his new club: "Rich Boys With Big Toys".
  
Goliath grabbing onto a flagpole during [[Awakening Part Two|"Awakening: Part Two"]] was to demonstrate a difference between the [[Manhattan Clan]] and Batman.[https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=46] Though the concern was lessened after [[Gary Krisel]] would occasionally have the [[gargoyle]]s caping.[https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=734]
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==Tidbit==
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The ''Gargoyles'' parody in [[The Flashback of Notre Dame|"The Flashback of Notre Dame"]] (''Justice League Showcase'' #1 February 2000) shows a Batman pencil holder on Metamorpho's desk near the end of the story.
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==Production Background==
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Early in the series development, there was a concerted effort to demonstrate that ''[[Gargoyles (TV series)|Gargoyles]]'' wasn't too similar to ''Batman: The Animated Series''. The concern wasn't entirely unfounded, since ''Gargoyles'' brought in [[Frank Paur]] and [[Michael Reaves]] to work on the show, after both had also worked on ''Batman''. Concerns were pervasive enough at Buena Vista that, months before series began, [[Greg Weisman]] sent them a memo highlighting the significant differences between the two properties –  most significantly, the in how the heroes reacted differently to their respective tragedies and that ''Gargoyles'' as a whole was founded in hope. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=82] 
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This effort to differentiate between the shows also played out within the series itself. During the first modern fight scene in [[Awakening Part Two|"Awakening: Part Two"]], Goliath grabs onto a flagpole, but snaps it clean off the building. The beat was an intentional visual distinction that the [[Manhattan Clan]] and Batman would be operating quite differently. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=46] In contrast, Weisman was initially wary of [[Gary Krisel|Gary Krisel's]] suggestion that the [[gargoyle]]s cape their wings when it was emotionally appropriate, but he ultimately became a big fan of how cool the gargoyles looked with the caped wings. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=734]
  
While [[Macbeth]] was to be similar to [[Marvel Comics]] Kraven the Hunter, he tended to be more like Batman.  
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While [[Macbeth]] was to be similar to [[Marvel Comics|Marvel Comics']] Kraven the Hunter, he tended to be more like Batman.  
Similarities to the Caped Crusader were also made with [[Jason Canmore|Jason]], [[Robyn Canmore|Robyn]] and [[John Castaway|Jon Canmore]], as well as [[David Xanatos|Xanatos]] to a degree.[https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=60][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=5543]
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Similarities to the Caped Crusader were also made with [[Jason Canmore|Jason]], [[Robyn Canmore|Robyn]] and [[John Castaway|Jon Canmore]], as well as [[David Xanatos|Xanatos]] to a degree. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=60][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=5543]
  
While [[Hunter's Moon (episode)|"Hunter's Moon"]] was still being considered for Direct to Video, the [[Hunter's Moon Part Three|final]] battle would have taken place at a Sealand Amusement Park.  There was a concern about the location due to ''Batman: Mask of the Phantasm'' having a similar fight location.[https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=483]
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While [[Hunter's Moon (episode)|"Hunter's Moon"]] was still being considered for Direct to Video, the [[Hunter's Moon Part Three|final battle]] was originally planned to take place at a Sealand Amusement Park, but there was a concern about the location due to similarities with ''Batman: Mask of the Phantasm''. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=483]
  
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==See Also==
*[https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=82 Batman VS Gargoyles]
 
 
*[https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=322 Similarities between Catscan/Talon and Catman]
 
*[https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=322 Similarities between Catscan/Talon and Catman]
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[[Category:Canon]]
 
[[Category:Canon]]
 
[[Category:Media]]
 
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[[Category:Real world]]
 
[[Category:Real world]]

Latest revision as of 01:21, 12 December 2024

Could this be the Caped Crusader?

The Caped Crusader is an individual who believes, and has stated, that human criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. At one point, Goliath quoted the Caped Crusader, albeit unknowingly. When Elisa Maza asked Goliath outright if he was quoting the Caped Crusader, Goliath asked if he might be of use to their cause. Elisa changed the subject. ("A Little Crazy")


Apocrypha

The Caped Crusader when he is out of costume perhaps? Maybe?

In the apocryphal Radio Play, "Recruits", David Xanatos attempted to recruit the Caped Crusader to his new club: "Rich Boys With Big Toys".

Tidbit

The Gargoyles parody in "The Flashback of Notre Dame" (Justice League Showcase #1 February 2000) shows a Batman pencil holder on Metamorpho's desk near the end of the story.

Production Background

Early in the series development, there was a concerted effort to demonstrate that Gargoyles wasn't too similar to Batman: The Animated Series. The concern wasn't entirely unfounded, since Gargoyles brought in Frank Paur and Michael Reaves to work on the show, after both had also worked on Batman. Concerns were pervasive enough at Buena Vista that, months before series began, Greg Weisman sent them a memo highlighting the significant differences between the two properties – most significantly, the in how the heroes reacted differently to their respective tragedies and that Gargoyles as a whole was founded in hope. [1]

This effort to differentiate between the shows also played out within the series itself. During the first modern fight scene in "Awakening: Part Two", Goliath grabs onto a flagpole, but snaps it clean off the building. The beat was an intentional visual distinction that the Manhattan Clan and Batman would be operating quite differently. [2] In contrast, Weisman was initially wary of Gary Krisel's suggestion that the gargoyles cape their wings when it was emotionally appropriate, but he ultimately became a big fan of how cool the gargoyles looked with the caped wings. [3]

While Macbeth was to be similar to Marvel Comics' Kraven the Hunter, he tended to be more like Batman. Similarities to the Caped Crusader were also made with Jason, Robyn and Jon Canmore, as well as Xanatos to a degree. [4][5]

While "Hunter's Moon" was still being considered for Direct to Video, the final battle was originally planned to take place at a Sealand Amusement Park, but there was a concern about the location due to similarities with Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. [6]

See Also