Talk:Demona's Clan

I think I remember in Ask Greg that the clan lived in "cells" to avoid being wiped out all at once, and these five were only one "cell". Anyone remember this too? -- Vaevictis Asmadi 20:47, 4 December 2007 (CST)

I do recall something like that. I'll do some searching and see what I turn up. I am pretty sure that the five gargs in the picture were the extent of her clan at the time and that only later did the clan grow a bit. At that point she probably started dividing them up into cells. Of course that begs the question of how Canmore found all those cells to destroy them in 1057... --Matt 21:09, 4 December 2007 (CST)

Yeah, here it is: http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?sid=614023&qid=4143 I'll make the edit. Good thinking on that one. I'm still not sure how Canmore got them all destroyed... --Matt 21:31, 4 December 2007 (CST)

She arranged them all into an army, so they were probably all in one place. -- Vaevictis Asmadi 09:42, 5 December 2007 (CST)

I'm not sure about exactly how to phrase the reasoning for Demona's clan being divided into separate cells. I feel like the way we have it now makes it sound like Demona's clan was so large and doing so well that they had to divide into smaller groups around Scotland like the Wyvern plinted clan breaking off from the main clan. If oneof these cells consisted of just seven gargoyles and one beast, it seems more like the cell strategy had more to do with keeping the number of gargoyles in any one area small so they would be harder to find. Certainly it means the clan was large enough to split into smaller groups, but not so big that it would have been necessary under better circumstances. -- Demonskrye 06:29, 24 August 2009 (CDT)

You're right, Demonskrye. The cells were likely set up for safety rather than a large clan. I'll play with the wording but jump in if you have an idea for phrasing. Litwolf 24 August 2009

Thanks for taking care of that. The new wording looks fine to me. -- Demonskrye 07:40, 25 August 2009 (CDT)

Another new revelation out of the Gathering: the beaked gargoyle who resembles Brooklyn in Demona's Clan is Brooklyn's biological brother. I'm fairly certain that he is also one of the surviving members of Demona's Clan as of 1020, since he looks very similar and has the same distinctive clothing with the single shoulder strap. I think the red beaked gargoyle in Demona's 1020 clan lineup may be the one Brooklyn actually calls "bro," though I'm not as certain. And now that I look at him, the green guy standing next to True who may be her rookery brother looks an awful lot like the green gargoyle in the clan group shot. Should any of these guys have their own article? -- Demonskrye 07:40, 25 August 2009 (CDT)

If it makes life easier, I can give you guys the script designation names I used for the Wyvern Cell of Demona's Clan. None of these names, of course, are canon. If you look at the page in #11 where Demona's telling the Wyvern Cell about the deaths of the Sruighlea Cell, panel 2 from Left to Right is Second, Sacrifice, Schnozz (i.e. Brooklyn's Rookery "Bro") and Brooksbro (i.e. Brooklyn's older biological brother). In panel 3 of the same page you have, the beasts Chomp and Chaw, and the young gargoyles Kermit and True.--Gweisman 17:07, 25 August 2009 (CDT)

If you look at Demona's clan from COS, you see 5 distinct gargoyles. Her second, the little green one, the blue one, the red one with a small beak, and the tan one with the toga like clothes. All except for the blue one are in CB2. I think that the red one with the beak is actually a Rookery brother to Brooklyn, given the way that they reacted to each other. The tan one might also be from the same rookery. I also think that the little green one is either a rookery sibling of True, or at the very least the same age as True if he is from a different clan.--

I'm working on pages for the other Wyvern Cell gargoyles. I haven't watched "City of Stone" in a really long time and I honestly don't recall what any of these guys do or say in those episodes or even which gargoyle gets destroyed in 1040. So edit as needed. -- Demonskrye 10:10, 26 August 2009 (CDT)

Blue guy

Does anyone else think it's kind of weird to have all the gargoyles in Demona's old clan have a nickname and an individual page except the blue guy? Were there any nicknames associated with him in the COS notes? (I used "Frillard" for him in my summary notes-don't ask lol). Was someone planning on making a page for him? As of now, he's not in the first appearances section in COS1. (I'm not able to create pages on here, and I'm too technology challenged to figure out why.)--PGFish 20:00, 28 September 2009 (CDT)

I find this blue guy very intrigueing for multiple reasons and I have been planning on making a page for him. -- Matt 20:24, 28 September 2009 (CDT)

Who Died??

This always drives me nuts when I watch City of Stone 3. Which gargoyle was smashed by Duncan? We clearly see "Kermit" getting it, but we see him leaving the cave 10 seconds later! Notice the only one missing when the gargoyles flee the cave is the blue guy, so I thought he may be the one who was killed...but then we see both of these gargoyles in Macbeth's coronation scene ARGH!

The Wyvern Cell

In Greg's memo for "City of Stone," he places the so-called Wyvern Cell as living in caves at Lunfanan [1]. Shouldn't this cell be called the Lunfanan Cell instead? -- GregX 20:02, 31 May 2011 (PDT)

Not unless Greg calls them that. That was only a memo, not a reveal from Greg or something he mentioned in a ramble or told us at a Gathering or whatnot. Until he says calls them something more definitive than Wyvern Cell, I'd say leave it as it is. Plus, we don't even know if they did indeed live in a cave near Lunfanan Hill. Things can change from a memo. It might be worth asking Greg about though. -- Matt 01:22, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

I thought it was interesting that Greg placed them there in 1020 and 1040. They apparently felt secure enough to stay in that location for 20 years, although they could have circulated around. Then again, Demona's Second said the hunting there was good.--RJackson 8:57, 1 June 2011 (UTC+9)

Sorry for the double post, but I thought of something else that may make it harder to make Lunfanan canon or canon-in-training for the location of Demona's Clan. Greg has the raid on the storehouse taking place at Dunsinane in his memo and then has Demona's Clan eating their stolen food at Lunfanan. I checked Google Maps and they're about 70 miles apart. Demona and her clan could have gone as the crow or gargoyles flies or glides or whatever. The place of the raid can probably be changed easier. --RJackson 9:14, 1 June 2011 (UTC+9)