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The '''Xanatos Tag''' was a staple of the series both on television and in the comic books. Often it would seem like [[Goliath]] and his [[Manhattan Clan|clan]] won the day only for the audience to learn that the villain of the episode, usually [[David Xanatos]] achieved victory.
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The '''Xanatos Tag''' was a staple of the series both on [[Gargoyles (TV series)|television]] and in the comic books. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=56] Often it would seem like [[Goliath]] and his [[Manhattan Clan|clan]] won the night only for the audience to learn that the villain of the episode, usually [[David Xanatos]], achieved victory.
  
 
==Notable Xanatos Tags==
 
==Notable Xanatos Tags==
 
*[[The Thrill of the Hunt|"The Thrill of the Hunt"]] - Although the [[Pack]] had been defeated, we learn that Xanatos created the Pack and that he wanted to test them and Goliath. He was pleased with the results.
 
*[[The Thrill of the Hunt|"The Thrill of the Hunt"]] - Although the [[Pack]] had been defeated, we learn that Xanatos created the Pack and that he wanted to test them and Goliath. He was pleased with the results.
*[[The Edge|"The Edge"]] - While Xanatos failed to capture the gargoyles or locate their new home, he still successfully tested his new prototype battle exo-frame, recovered the [[Eye of Odin]] and still had the [[New York City|city]] owe him a favor, and was assured that he had not lost his edge.
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*[[The Edge|"The Edge"]] - While Xanatos failed to capture the gargoyles or locate their [[Clock Tower|new home]], he still successfully tested his new prototype battle exo-frame, recovered the [[Eye of Odin]] and still had the [[New York City|city]] owe him a favor. All in all he was assured that he had not lost his edge.
*[[Leader of the Pack|"Leader of the Pack"]] - The Pack had failed to defeat the gargoyles but that never mattered - Xanatos had no interest in revenge and the Pack's escape was engineered to give [[Fox]] a shot at an early parole and test out [[Coyote (robot)|Coyote]].
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*[[Leader of the Pack|"Leader of the Pack"]] - The Pack had failed to defeat the gargoyles, but that never mattered Xanatos had no interest in revenge and the Pack's escape was engineered to give [[Fox]] a shot at an early parole and test out the robot, [[Coyote (robot)|Coyote 1.0]].
*[[Metamorphosis|"Metamorphosis"]] - While the [[Mutates]] escaped, Xanatos was successful in transforming Derek Maza into [[Talon]] and making sure he'd keep them under his thumb.
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*[[Metamorphosis|"Metamorphosis"]] - While the [[Mutates]] escaped, Xanatos was successful in transforming Derek Maza into [[Talon]] and making sure he'd keep them under his thumb. [[Anton Sevarius]] also remains in his employ, unbeknownst to the Mutates.
*[[Legion|"Legion"]] - Xanatos awoke the comatose [[Coldstone]] and sent him to invade [[Golden Cup]] thus providing cover for the police to send in [[RECAP]] in an attempt to download the defense specs Coldstone was stealing. While the defense specs weren't recovered, a powerful computer virus that Xanatos could use as a weapon was.
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*[[Legion|"Legion"]] - Xanatos awoke the comatose [[Coldstone]] and sent him to invade [[Golden Cup]] thus providing cover for the police to send in [[RECAP]] in an attempt to download the defense specs Coldstone was stealing. While the defense specs weren't recovered, a powerful [[Computer Virus|computer virus]] that Xanatos could use as a weapon was.
*[[Upgrade|"Upgrade"]] - The upgraded Pack may have been defeated and Xanatos may have lost his chess game with Fox, but he was thrilled to have found in her an equal.
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*[[Upgrade|"Upgrade"]] - The upgraded Pack may have been defeated and Xanatos may have lost his [[Gargoyles & Pack Chess Set|chess game]] with Fox, but he was thrilled to have found in her an equal.
*[[New Rules|"New Rules"]] - Xanatos successfully engineered Goliath's hearing to go the way he wanted thanks to a bribe he had provided to [[Ian Roebling|Judge Roebling]].
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*[[Hunter's Moon Part Three|"Hunter's Moon" Part Three]] - Though genuine in wanting to repay the Manhattan Clan for saving his [[Alexander Fox Xanatos|son]], Xanatos reinstating them to their [[Castle Wyvern|ancestral home]] meant having them under his roof and on his side.[https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=8634]
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*[[New Rules|"New Rules"]] - Xanatos successfully engineered [[Goliath's Hearing]] to go the way he wanted thanks to a bribe he had provided to [[Ian Roebling|Judge Roebling]].
  
 
==Non-Xanatos Tags==
 
==Non-Xanatos Tags==
 
However, Xanatos isn't the only villain who earns such moments.
 
However, Xanatos isn't the only villain who earns such moments.
  
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*[[Vows|"Vows"]] - Despite David proving to his father that he was a self-made man, [[Petros Xanatos|Petros]] dismisses the whole feat by giving his son the wedding gift of a single American penny. 
 
*[[High Noon|"High Noon"]] - Though the gargoyles and [[Elisa Maza]] survive and Coldstone escapes, the [[Weird Sisters]] maintain control of [[Demona]] and [[Macbeth]] and, using them, acquire the ''[[Grimorum Arcanorum]]'', the [[Eye of Odin]], and the [[Phoenix Gate]].
 
*[[High Noon|"High Noon"]] - Though the gargoyles and [[Elisa Maza]] survive and Coldstone escapes, the [[Weird Sisters]] maintain control of [[Demona]] and [[Macbeth]] and, using them, acquire the ''[[Grimorum Arcanorum]]'', the [[Eye of Odin]], and the [[Phoenix Gate]].
 
*[[Double Jeopardy|"Double Jeopardy"]] - [[Thailog]] manages to manipulate everyone and pulls off a scheme to fake his own death and escape with $20 million extorted from Xanatos.
 
*[[Double Jeopardy|"Double Jeopardy"]] - [[Thailog]] manages to manipulate everyone and pulls off a scheme to fake his own death and escape with $20 million extorted from Xanatos.
 
*[[Bash|"Bash"]] - Thailog doesn't succeed in killing Goliath, but he is joined by [[Brentwood]] and escapes with samples of each of the Manhattan Clan's DNA.
 
*[[Bash|"Bash"]] - Thailog doesn't succeed in killing Goliath, but he is joined by [[Brentwood]] and escapes with samples of each of the Manhattan Clan's DNA.
 
*[[Cold Comfort|"Cold Comfort"]] - Demona pulls one off spectacularly by using [[Antoinette Dracon]] to use the clan to get rid of [[Dino Dracon]] and place [[Dominic Dracon]] at the head of the [[Six Families]] while Antoinette controls Dominic while following Demona - this granting Demona control of the city's underworld.
 
*[[Cold Comfort|"Cold Comfort"]] - Demona pulls one off spectacularly by using [[Antoinette Dracon]] to use the clan to get rid of [[Dino Dracon]] and place [[Dominic Dracon]] at the head of the [[Six Families]] while Antoinette controls Dominic while following Demona - this granting Demona control of the city's underworld.
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*[[Queen of All She Surveys|"Queen of All She Surveys"]] - Demona pulls off another one, while she loses the [[Three Keys to Power]], she still succeeded in enchanting Elisa Maza into stealing [[Egwardo]], passing Egwardo off to Antoinette Dracon who then delivered the egg to Demona. To top it off, Demona managed to emotionally twist the knife into her hated enemy while doing it.
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==Production Background==
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[[Greg Weisman]] has written that the idea and appeal of the Xanatos Tag was his "desire not to undercut our lead villains. Villains get tiresome when they lose all the time. And heroes are pointless if they lose all the time . . . But if a hero wins the battle and then we secretly reveal (in our patented Xanatos tags) that he may still be losing the war, then that keeps both sides interesting." [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=8554] He also appreciated the ambiguity that Xanatos might be "just full of it. He loses, but claims victory anyway." [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=62]
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On [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage TV Tropes], a wiki devoted to cataloging and defining various writing "tropes", the [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit Xanatos Gambit] was named for David Xanatos's signature style of turning any defeat into a victory.  Before long, "Xanatos" became a standard modifier for pages relating to devious planning (i.e. "Xanatos Roulette" for a Gambit gone out of control, or "Xanatos Sucker" for the person being manipulated), culminating in a sub-section of such tropes being titled, "Xanatos Planned This Index".
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Latest revision as of 22:04, 9 December 2024

The Xanatos Tag was a staple of the series both on television and in the comic books. [1] Often it would seem like Goliath and his clan won the night only for the audience to learn that the villain of the episode, usually David Xanatos, achieved victory.

Notable Xanatos Tags

  • "The Thrill of the Hunt" - Although the Pack had been defeated, we learn that Xanatos created the Pack and that he wanted to test them and Goliath. He was pleased with the results.
  • "The Edge" - While Xanatos failed to capture the gargoyles or locate their new home, he still successfully tested his new prototype battle exo-frame, recovered the Eye of Odin and still had the city owe him a favor. All in all he was assured that he had not lost his edge.
  • "Leader of the Pack" - The Pack had failed to defeat the gargoyles, but that never mattered – Xanatos had no interest in revenge and the Pack's escape was engineered to give Fox a shot at an early parole and test out the robot, Coyote 1.0.
  • "Metamorphosis" - While the Mutates escaped, Xanatos was successful in transforming Derek Maza into Talon and making sure he'd keep them under his thumb. Anton Sevarius also remains in his employ, unbeknownst to the Mutates.
  • "Legion" - Xanatos awoke the comatose Coldstone and sent him to invade Golden Cup thus providing cover for the police to send in RECAP in an attempt to download the defense specs Coldstone was stealing. While the defense specs weren't recovered, a powerful computer virus that Xanatos could use as a weapon was.
  • "Upgrade" - The upgraded Pack may have been defeated and Xanatos may have lost his chess game with Fox, but he was thrilled to have found in her an equal.
  • "Hunter's Moon" Part Three - Though genuine in wanting to repay the Manhattan Clan for saving his son, Xanatos reinstating them to their ancestral home meant having them under his roof and on his side.[2]
  • "New Rules" - Xanatos successfully engineered Goliath's Hearing to go the way he wanted thanks to a bribe he had provided to Judge Roebling.

Non-Xanatos Tags

However, Xanatos isn't the only villain who earns such moments.

  • "Vows" - Despite David proving to his father that he was a self-made man, Petros dismisses the whole feat by giving his son the wedding gift of a single American penny.
  • "High Noon" - Though the gargoyles and Elisa Maza survive and Coldstone escapes, the Weird Sisters maintain control of Demona and Macbeth and, using them, acquire the Grimorum Arcanorum, the Eye of Odin, and the Phoenix Gate.
  • "Double Jeopardy" - Thailog manages to manipulate everyone and pulls off a scheme to fake his own death and escape with $20 million extorted from Xanatos.
  • "Bash" - Thailog doesn't succeed in killing Goliath, but he is joined by Brentwood and escapes with samples of each of the Manhattan Clan's DNA.
  • "Cold Comfort" - Demona pulls one off spectacularly by using Antoinette Dracon to use the clan to get rid of Dino Dracon and place Dominic Dracon at the head of the Six Families while Antoinette controls Dominic while following Demona - this granting Demona control of the city's underworld.
  • "Queen of All She Surveys" - Demona pulls off another one, while she loses the Three Keys to Power, she still succeeded in enchanting Elisa Maza into stealing Egwardo, passing Egwardo off to Antoinette Dracon who then delivered the egg to Demona. To top it off, Demona managed to emotionally twist the knife into her hated enemy while doing it.

Production Background

Greg Weisman has written that the idea and appeal of the Xanatos Tag was his "desire not to undercut our lead villains. Villains get tiresome when they lose all the time. And heroes are pointless if they lose all the time . . . But if a hero wins the battle and then we secretly reveal (in our patented Xanatos tags) that he may still be losing the war, then that keeps both sides interesting." [3] He also appreciated the ambiguity that Xanatos might be "just full of it. He loses, but claims victory anyway." [4]

On TV Tropes, a wiki devoted to cataloging and defining various writing "tropes", the Xanatos Gambit was named for David Xanatos's signature style of turning any defeat into a victory. Before long, "Xanatos" became a standard modifier for pages relating to devious planning (i.e. "Xanatos Roulette" for a Gambit gone out of control, or "Xanatos Sucker" for the person being manipulated), culminating in a sub-section of such tropes being titled, "Xanatos Planned This Index".