GargWiki:Community Portal

Welcome to the GargWiki Community Portal! Here we provide a simple introduction to the GargWiki community and a few useful tools to help editors navigate the site.

Before you begin

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• GargWiki:About - This page contains a brief description of GargWiki, an explanation of how articles are organized, and a short history of the site.
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Ongoing discussions

GargWiki talk:Community Portal, this page's associated talk page, is for discussions and suggestions relating to the whole of GargWiki. If you would like to get more involved in the running of GargWiki, or if you have an idea to improve the site, you can add it there. Please remember to respect your fellow editors.

As well as this, here is a list of other ongoing discussions elsewhere on the site:

• Talk:Timeline#Propose_Splitting_1996.2C_and_perhaps_other_major_years - Users are debating whether or not the Timeline should be split into multiple pages. This discussion is on hiatus until April 2008.
• Talk:Robyn Canmore - Users are discussing how best to disambiguate the page Hunter
• Talk:Hunter's Moon Part Three - User:M m hawk has asked for comments about inclusion of the missing scene from this episode.
• Talk:Labyrinth Clan - User:Vaevictis Asmadi has put forward the idea of separating gargoyles and gargoyle beasts in other clans, along the lines of the mutates/gargoyles separation in this article.
• Talk:Sleipnir - Users are discussing how to categorize Sleipnir's species
• Talk:Coldtrio - The canonicity of this article needs to be determined.
• Talk:The Mirror - User:Vaevictis Asmadi has asked whether or not to link to the 2006 Radio Play in this article
• Category talk:Hybrids - What is the origin and canonicity of the term "halfling"?
• Talk:Appearences Section - Ongoing discussion relating to the Appearences Section of Canon Character articles. Also deals with citation within History Sections and possible future improvements to these pages.
• Talk:Timeline#Future_vs._Recorded_History - User:Vaevictis Asmadi proposes that we clarify what counts as "present" in preparation for "The Gate".
• Talk:B.J. Ward - Can someone check definitively whether B.J. Ward played Billy's Mom in The Journey (TGC)? Thanks.
• Talk:Series Bible - Discussion concerning the addition of information from the Series Bible and what to do with it, etc.
• GargWiki talk:Feature - Discussion concerning the Featured Article section on the Main Page and suggestions for future such articles.
• Talk:Diane Maza - Was Diane Maza really named after Diane Duane and, if so, can we provide sources for this?
• Talk:Generations (review) - Users are discussing possible formats and rules for both reviews and episode/story summaries.

Tasks

In this section, editors can list GargWiki pages according to the work that needs to be done on them. Editors can request pages anonymously or sign their comments by adding three tildes at the end: ~~~

Editors are also encouraged to give a brief explanation as to why they have listed the page, and ideas for improvement.

Requested pages

Special:Wantedpages contains an automatically-generated list of non-existent pages with the most incoming links, but users can also request pages to be created by listing them here.

• Puck's flute -- An item page, probably a stub for now, but it did appear in a couple of episodes.
• Gargoyle Way -- We hear this phrase a lot to mean a lot of different things. Maybe someday we can cook up a page talking about the gargoyle code (parenting, banishing, leader/second, all that) Mabe it could help split up the gargoyles page more, as I did when I made clan. -- Matt 16:44, 1 January 2008 (CST)

I would rather have a series of interconnected pages, like Gargoyle, Gargoyle culture (which would link out to, e.g. Clan and Wind Ceremony), Gargoyle biology (which would link out to, e.g. Egg), and maybe even Gargoyle history or similar. We can keep some information (mostly canon) in the main article and then direct people wherever they want to go. Gargoyle Way can redirect to Gargoyle culture. We might even be able to merge some info back into more general articles from clan and egg and whatever else. To keep in line with the archives at Ask Greg, gargoyle culture could also be called gargoyle customs. ... Huh. That seems kinda complicated when I write it all out. -- Supermorff 17:21, 14 January 2008 (CST)

• Hovercraft -- Talk about hovercrafts and airships. Just a thought. -- Matt 11:48, 10 January 2008 (CST)

Specifically Brod's hovercraft from "Golem" and "Turf". -- Supermorff

Yeah, but we also had the Cyberbiotics' airships, the Hunter's airship and sky sleds and maybe others I can't think of. -- Matt 17:59, 14 January 2008 (CST)

We might as well have separate articles for each: Brod's hovercraft, the Hunters' airship, and the sky sleds, etc. -- Supermorff 07:17, 2 June 2008 (CDT)

• Street Thugs -- Since we have pages for most of the other recurring characters, I figured they needed their own page as well. Maybe have a subsection for London Street Thugs. -- Matt 17:15, 23 January 2008 (CST)

They appeared in Awakening... uh... 3, Avalon 1 and Hunter's Moon 1. The voice actors who played them switched roles between their first and second appearances (Keith David went from playing the bald white guy to the black guy in a leather jacket). They acquired a gun before their third appearance. That's all I got on them. -- Supermorff 15:10, 1 February 2008 (CST)

• Construction worker -- Another recurring character without a page. Where there any others we have not done yet? -- Matt 17:15, 23 January 2008 (CST)

From Vendettas and Hunter's Moon 1. Any other appearances? -- Supermorff 15:10, 1 February 2008 (CST)

• Fairlane -- How about a page for Elisa's car? We see it so much in the the show. It could go in the Vehicles Category PGFish 20:25, 9 April 2008 (CDT)

Since it wasn't identified as a Fairlane, I'd suggest just calling it Elisa's Car or something and mentioning that someone based it off the Fairlane in the Production Background or whatever. Just my two cents. -- Matt 21:22, 7 May 2008 (CDT)

• Executive Assistant -- Owen Burnett, Preston Vogel, Glasses, Shari, Robyn Correy... Not sure if this is a dumb idea or not, but I thought I'd put it out there for discussion. Feel free to totally reject this one. -- Matt
• Freakazoid! - In the style of other non-Gargoyles TV series, such as W.I.T.C.H., with focus on the Gargoyles references. In particular, mention the Lawn Gnomes segment (video) and the gargoyle at the opening of this video. -- Supermorff 15:33, 28 May 2008 (CDT)
• Leica reel - as in the Bad Guys leica reel. -- Supermorff 13:22, 26 May 2008 (CDT)

Pages in need of expansion

Special:Shortpages contains an automatically-generated list of pages with the least information, but users can also list pages to be expanded here.

• Gargoyles (video game) - per the talk page
• Gargoyles (TV series) - addition of a History section, per Talk:Gargoyles (TV series)
• Gargoyles (SLG comics)
• Humans -- Talent for invention and technology. Make too much noise (and constantly modify their environment) to sense the biorhythms. Probably invented naming. History with a focus on their relations with other races. -- Vaevictis Asmadi 10:07, 24 December 2007 (CST)

Requested images

Here, users can list articles that they believe could be improved by the inclusion of appropriate images.

• Avalon Clan -- Matt has requested a collage of higher quality pics of all members seen in canon.

• Ishimura Clan -- Matt has requested a collage of higher quality pics of all members seen in canon.

• Halloween - Demonskrye would like some pictures of various characters in their Halloween costumes.

From Eye of the Beholder or Gargoyles #4 and #5? Or both? D Taina 17:25, 9 May 2008 (CDT)

I'd personally like both eventually, but no rush. You can also feel free to grab pics of any other characters with interesting Halloween costumes (like Alex, Brendan, Morgan, maybe Thailog?, etc). -- Demonskrye 18:39, 9 May 2008 (CDT)

• Gargoyle - Demonskrye would like a picture or pictures of some real stone gargoyles for the Real-World Background section. We can keep the one of the stone gargoyles from the show, but I don't think the "life-sized" free-standing statues we see frequently in the series are really good representations of what most real-world gargoyles look like. Plus, despite the caption, these particular gargoyle statues do not exist in the real world.

• Angela, Gabriel and Boudicca as hatchlings would be a neat addition to their pages, IMHO. -- Matt 22:09, 7 June 2008 (CDT)

There's this pan: Raising the Hatchlings DTaina 22:15, 7 June 2008 (CDT)

Yeah, I know about that pan and it is great, but I was thinking of individual close-up pics of the hatchlings. -- Matt 22:42, 7 June 2008 (CDT)

There's a close-up of Gabriel, but there are no close-ups of Angela and Boudicca. I've uploaded a few screenshots. This is pretty much all that's available to us. Just pick your favorites: 1 2 3 4 DTaina 08:29, 8 June 2008 (CDT)

I'd go with 1 and 3. I think three is the best drawing of li'l Gabriel and 1 all we've got for li'l Boudicca and li'l Angela from the front. Of course, 1 would probably have to be chopped up if we're putting pics on each garg's page. -- Demonskrye 18:46, 19 June 2008 (CDT)

Yeah, I'll add the Gabriel pic soon, but I don't think we have good enough angles of Angela or Boudicca to bother with adding them, cute as they are. -- Matt 20:48, 19 June 2008 (CDT)

It's too bad we have no close-ups of Angela and Boudicca as hatchlings. That would be a great addition to their pages. I could draw them but I don't think that's allowed. So, you guys mind if I remove this request? 09:43, 20 June 2008 (CDT)

I'm fine with removing the request, since better shots of young Angela and Boudicca don't exist. But could we maybe use pic #1 on the Avalon Clan page or something? It's pretty cute, I don't think we have many pictures of Tom at that age (though Angela's covering a good chucnk of his face, so I wouldn't put it on his page) and it seems like a shame to waste it. -- Demonskrye 12:48, 20 June 2008 (CDT)

I think that's a great idea. I could get a frame where Tom's face isn't hidden. Or we could use my pan, Raising the Hatchlings. What do you think? DTaina 16:47, 20 June 2008 (CDT)

Well, that pic is already in use on the "Eggs" page, I believe. -- Matt 18:04, 20 June 2008 (CDT)

Ah, you're right. Well why don't we just get a pic of adult but not old Tom for his page and call it done then? -- Demonskrye 18:22, 20 June 2008 (CDT)

Sounds like a plan. You guys need a better pic of adult Tom? DTaina 17:27, 21 June 2008 (CDT)

Group consensus rules, but I think that's the way to go. If you can find one where Angela isn't covering up his eyes, that would be great. And then we can delete this whole item before the indents start coming out the other side. -- Demonskrye 20:42, 21 June 2008 (CDT)

And, actually, yeah, I think we could do with a different picture of adult/elderly Tom. The helmet he's wearing on the one we use now makes his face look a bit strange. -- Supermorff 04:22, 22 June 2008 (CDT)

Whoa, that's a lot of colons. Anyway, here's your pic: Adult Tom DTaina 10:15, 24 June 2008 (CDT)

Looks great to me! I'd crop it down so it's mostly Tom and just enough of Katherine to avoid confusion. Then we can delete this whole conversation and end the colon madness. (Though we should probably retain Supermorff's request for an new picture of old Tom.) -- Demonskrye 10:21, 24 June 2008 (CDT)

Thirteen colons! Must be a new record. And I don't see why we can't use the full pic of adult Tom. If we cropped it, then we'd have Katharine's disembodied hand and that's not a pretty sight. Plus it's such a cute pic. But if you guys want to crop it, then that's fine. By the way, I'll look for a new pic of the Guardian after I come back from The Gathering. DTaina 10:29, 24 June 2008 (CDT)

Kudos

GargWiki:Special Thanks contains a list of influential people that helped create GargWiki in its current form. Editors can also recognize the efforts of regular users of GargWiki by listing them here:

• Kudos to VA for rewriting the first sentences of tons of articles for better uniformity of format! (Feel free to use this section for kudos to other editors too.) -- Demonskrye 20 September 2007

  Oh, thank you! :) -- Vaevictis Asmadi 13:09, 20 September 2007 (CDT)

• Kudos to User:Supermorff for his hard work creating and implementing the CIT text and banner templates. -- Vaevictis Asmadi 21:22, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

  Thanks very much! -- Supermorff 03:53, 27 September 2007 (CDT)

• A big well done to User:Matt, and also User:Greg Bishansky, for adding Appearances sections to every canon character article. -- Supermorff 14:45, 31 December 2007 (CST)

  Thanks! I can't believe it took less than a day. Thanks everyone who helped put it together, offered suggestions, corrected errors and reminded me of things I'd forgotten. Wait'll you guys hear my next big idea! -- Matt 14:48, 31 December 2007 (CST)

• Massive kudos to D Taina for image contributions past, present, and future. -- Demonskrye 14:25, 15 May 2008 (CDT)

  Thank you!!  :D I try! -- D Taina 00:50, 20 May 2008 (CDT)